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. as you said, i remember during past elections, every losing candidate has had this. the hillary voters in the 2008 primary had their own circle. they were convinced that the support for obama was way overstated. you were totally right about 2004, the 2002. like every election this happens, but the weird how this really happened in the last week was kind of remarkable. >> isn't this -- i think this is sort of a subset of a larger trend on the right? it's been going on for a really long time. there's a sort of combination of self-pity and sort of feeding the idea that they are victims of this massive conspiracy by the left to lie about everything and that they are truly the majority. i've been calling it the fun house mirror. i love your characterization of it even more. but there is this notion that everything is a lie. climate change is a lie. the idea that liberals are just lying to you all the time. this distrust of media, distrust of numbers, distrust of data. everything is a lie. >> it's also funny because a lot of the paul ryan supporters, it's not politics. it's math. liberals ta
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